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fireplug
06-17-2005, 02:18 PM
Has anyone ruined good quality 'hand tool' sockets using an impact gun?
I found a good deal on a set of impact sockets, but it is still a hundred bucks and I figure my hand tool set is warrantied for life. Just wondering if I should go for it or not.
Opinions appreciated!
google
06-17-2005, 02:24 PM
I've personaly returned 4 socket wrenches to sears in one day (one for each wheel) and never had a problem with the sockets themselves. Bent my 4 foot cheater bar though.....
74 chev
06-17-2005, 02:26 PM
yes i have broken several craftsman sockets with an impact untill i actually bought a set of impact sockets.
gravdigr
06-17-2005, 02:57 PM
I paid a whopping $40 for both sets of my impact sockets about 7 years ago and none have broken. Not comparing them to non impact sockets, but saying you don't have to spend a fortune on them. My 2 sets are both standard deep well and normal depth 1/2" - 1 1/4". Check the surplus stores.
nvrenuf
06-17-2005, 03:01 PM
Has anyone ruined good quality 'hand tool' sockets using an impact gun?
I've seen cheap chrome 12 pts round out on an air gun. If the sockets were 6 pt it probably wouldn't be a problem.
86chevybanshee
06-17-2005, 03:40 PM
ive had 12 points round out and 6 points shatter with my gun, craftsman sockets with an ingersoll rand 2135ti gun, id spend the extra cash to get impact sockets
sweetk30
06-17-2005, 03:58 PM
6 point and impact for safty. chrome will blow with good air and gun. i work with them all day at work.
also thay take bolts and nuts out better as less flex in the socket from thicker wall .
bigjbear
06-17-2005, 04:01 PM
If you have a good impact, yes you will most likely tear them up. I've broke Craftsman and S/K chrome t/w sockets with my IR 244. I bought some cheep impact sockets after that. While they didn't have the best fit or finish, they held up just fine untill I could afford some better ones. That would be about 5 yrs later. If you don't have the cash for quailty now, cheep impact sockets are deffinatly a place where you can cut costs.
Something to look out for; I bought a huge set of S/K impact sockets about 2 yrs ago during a promo sale from an independent tool truck. They are very high quality and cheaper than Sears/Craftsman.
Zeitler
06-17-2005, 04:49 PM
if you're going to use non impact sockets , be sure to use eye protection ..they can split/shatter....
dodgedude99
06-17-2005, 05:14 PM
ive split 6 pt craftsman with an impact.
i generally only use impact sockets, even with a ratchet.
i had gotten a 2 sets 1/2 impact sockets(metric and sae) from Harbor Freight for $15 each set for my junkyard box, they actually work pretty good.
Hossbaby50
06-17-2005, 05:21 PM
Even if you don't crack your chrome hand tool sockets with an impact wrench you will probably wallow out the 1/2" attaching point. I have several sockets that were used on an impact gun that won't stay on a ratchet unless you hold them on. The impact may not ruin them completely but I can tell you from experience that dropping the socket you are trying to work with several times in a row is a PITA and will piss you off after awhile.
Harley
stallion85
06-17-2005, 05:23 PM
ive split 6 pt craftsman with an impact.
i generally only use impact sockets, even with a ratchet.
i had gotten a 2 sets 1/2 impact sockets(metric and sae) from Harbor Freight for $15 each set for my junkyard box, they actually work pretty good.
I have this same set and can vouch for there durability.
avgas
06-17-2005, 05:27 PM
me too, I've been pretty impressed with the harbor freight stuff I've gotten so far. Maybe it's because I went in think everything would be complete crap from their reputation
89GMCSuburban
06-17-2005, 05:46 PM
Amen to that, i fragment standard sockets with the 1,000 lb.ft. IR titanium 1/2". Impact sockets are worth it
blazerpro79
06-17-2005, 08:05 PM
ya i have the harbor freight impacts... they are great! i use them by hand too, feel and look better, and are stronger
anyway why use the stupid chrome ones... anti-bling!!!
big83chevy4x4
06-17-2005, 09:45 PM
ive broken more sockets with my 3/8" ratchet than an impact, but i have wore them out. i use MIT impact sockets that i picked up for $20, they even come with a life time warenty :grin:
KidJethro
06-17-2005, 09:59 PM
Amen to that, i fragment standard sockets with the 1,000 lb.ft. IR titanium 1/2". Impact sockets are worth it
The 2135ti doesn't do "1,000 lb-ft". It does 625 in forward, 700 in reverse. IR does claim "the seven vane motor delivers Nut Busting Torque that will loosen a nut tightened to 1,000 ft.-lbs...in 6 seconds!"
That said, I have a 2135ti and love the thing- Only 3.5 lbs. :D
pvfjr
06-17-2005, 10:12 PM
The 2135ti doesn't do "1,000 lb-ft". It does 625 in forward, 700 in reverse. IR does claim "the seven vane motor delivers Nut Busting Torque that will loosen a nut tightened to 1,000 ft.-lbs...in 6 seconds!"
That said, I have a 2135ti and love the thing- Only 3.5 lbs. :D
Well while we're being technical, it's 3.95 lbs. Just got mine in the mail today, can't wait to use it!
89GMCSuburban
06-17-2005, 11:13 PM
Well...next time I will be sure to post my entire spec sheet since it seems that important :rolleyes:
KidJethro
06-18-2005, 12:35 AM
Well...next time I will be sure to post my entire spec sheet since it seems that important :rolleyes:
No need to get butthurt dude...I guess I shoulda added a smiley or two... ;)
Smitty
06-18-2005, 05:02 AM
I stick with the impact sockets when using the impact gun. Years ago, I was using a Craftsman socket with an impact gun. The chrome split on the socket and shredded my fingers. The stuff was so sharp that I didn't even know it was cutting me up until it was too late. It's amazing how fast that stuff can remove your fingerprints.... :o
70~K5
06-18-2005, 03:23 PM
I'll use a standard socket on the gun when clearance is a problem, but I break it loose with a breaker-bar. then spin it out with the gun. ;)
fireplug
06-18-2005, 03:35 PM
Right on guys, thanks for the opinions. I guess I'll jump on that deal.
BrianDamage
06-18-2005, 07:55 PM
I bought a set of impact sockets from autozone. they were less than $30. Been using them for years
mike reeh
06-19-2005, 12:34 AM
Ive got a set of harbor freight impact sockets too and they've treated me well...
as with most of you im sure, I love high quality, big name, high dollar tools but in reality I cant afford to fill my toolboxes with snap-on and the likes.. sometimes Im on a budget and will buy the cheaper stuff especially if its not used on a regular basis.. my toolbox that I keep in the truck has a bunch of harbor freight stuff in it (wrench sets, allen wrenches, etc) and some cheap ratchets and what not and it all works real well and im not terribly afraid of loaning it out or getting it dirty or breaking it or modifying the tools for special usage.... 3 cheers for harbor freight.
Grieby54
06-19-2005, 12:37 AM
I'd definately go with impact. They're a bit more, but props to the guy who can break one of them... I've shot pieces of socket across my garage when I didn't use impact!
Diesel Dan
06-19-2005, 11:36 AM
Didn't read whole post but, IF you insist on using chrome sockets on impacts don't hold onto them. If they split and spin they will shred your hand.
Pookster
06-19-2005, 07:23 PM
You'll acutally find that you can get away with just one set of impact sockets, if you just get the metric set. The larger sizes of metric has worked on every SAE bolt, without rounding or damaging anything. 6 pt metrics will work on SAE's, but not the other way around.
I think however, anything under about 15mm, this doesnt apply.
I bought a set of craftsman metric sockets, and have been impacting away for years. Never a problem.
i'd shy away from using the shiny ones, they dont handle impact stuff very well, and tend to crack. I Didnt know about the hand shredding thing, thats kinda scary.
jarheadk5
06-19-2005, 11:19 PM
Using my IR 2135TI on 110psi, I turned a 1/2" drive, 1 1/2" 6-point standard (chrome) socket into something that resembled a .45ACP Hydra-Shok after it's removed from a "victim". Thankfully, I didn't have my off-hand on the socket - otherwise my coworkers probably would've been picking up parts of my fingers while I waited for the meat wagon...
I have a set from Autozone also. Work great, espically for the $.
TWISTEDJACK
06-20-2005, 08:19 AM
I also use the HF impact sockets and they have lasted okay. When they wear out I will probably just buy another set since they are so cheap.
Save your money and just get a good impact gun.
wubba_65
06-22-2005, 03:33 PM
Impact sockets are thicker walled because the metal is softer than chrome "hand drive" sockets. The softer metal absorbs the shock of the impacts, and doesn't shatter.
You should never use a chrome socket on an impact, unless you break it loose by hand first and then use the impact simply to spin on and/or off the bolt/stud. Think of new building designs in California that are engineered to flex with earth quakes to absorb and dissipate the energy from the shock waves. This is what the thick walls of your impact sockets will do.
As for clearance issues, you can get some very low clearance impact sockets from reputable dealers. Also, try moving to a smaller gun (IR 2135TI is the shiatsnat). I sell this stuff for a living, so if you have any other questions about tools and what not feel free to ask.
uglyangelracing
06-23-2005, 01:10 AM
I use to have the same thought. Oh well they break I bring them back. Until the chrome socket broke and a piece hit about 1/4 in from my eye leaveing a scar. Luckily its only a scar and I still have the eye. Spend the extra cake for safety sake.
ProJunkRacing
06-23-2005, 05:16 AM
do a search on harbor frieght tools sells impact sockets for cheap online and they are made by pennsylvnia tool and are lifetime warrantied
bigjbear
06-23-2005, 08:48 AM
I might be wrong but I'll bet you are talking about the "Pittsburb" brand, if so those are imported. They are a great tool for the money, but not made in the USA.
ProJunkRacing
06-24-2005, 06:31 AM
there ya go i was thinkin pennsylvania but yeah as long as they have a warranty i dont really mind
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