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hello,

Just wondering if the California members could do me a favour...

Could you tell me what the average HIGH temperature is during Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter seasons ??

Thanks in advance...

what part of california?

Hope your not planning on moving to this communist S**t hole.

summer its f@%ing hot
winter its f@%ing cold

at least here in the mojave desert :rolleyes:

Yep, all depends on what part of California you're talking about. Here in the San Francisco bay area it is anywhere from 50-85 degrees on average between the seasons with occasional 100 degree days in summer and occasional 30 degree nights in winter. Like said, if you plan on moving here you better have LOTS of money because EVERYTHING is over priced in this state.

South Lake Tahoe vs. Plam Springs, Kalifornia is a large and varied state.

I Love So.Cal.!!!
Long Beach
Summer 70-100 with avg of 85
Winter 55-70 with avg of 65
Almost blue skies every day of year, except for the one month or so of straight rain lately.
Oh also here in long beach we have to deal with the damn "Marine layer and coastal eddies"...Wich i hate both :mad:
But other than that i love LA
Deserts to the east
Mountains to the N.E
Ocean to the W
Mexico to the S
Vegas within 3-4 hours :D

Yep, all depends on what part of California you're talking about. Here in the San Francisco bay area it is anywhere from 50-85 degrees on average between the seasons with occasional 100 degree days in summer and occasional 30 degree nights in winter. Like said, if you plan on moving here you better have LOTS of money because EVERYTHING is over priced in this state.

Yeah I should of been more specific. Probably more north and more east. But still close enough to the ocean... I don't know
Thought of eventually moving somewhere...California in on the lower of the list because of how huge population wise it is, and because its so expensive...

Thanks

Here, you can take my place; I've been savin it just for you.
Los Angeles, where everything is freeway close.

Nah I wouldn't want to live in L.A. been there once and its BUSY.
Also my friend had a really bad experience there...

Where are the "Hammers" close to?
The Rubicon is close to Placerville isn't it?

Steve, we're just tryin to help a bud; it i$ really expen$ive here. But if you're single and can get to the beach...HooYaaah! :bow: :D :wink1:

I love LA
But not down town or East, Just the Long Beach Area :D

When you guys say its expensive. What exactly is included? Taxes, houses, insurance, morgage...stuff like that?
Or electricty,gas, and living things?
or.........?

Where are the "Hammers" close to?
The Rubicon is close to Placerville isn't it?

Property tax, Income tax, Sales tax (8.25 % in LA CO.), Gas ~$3 gal. Ask "Chevyin" in the Pacific Region Forum; they just came from FLA. to Pismo area. Pretty painful, but they like it here. I'm just lucky to have been brought here in '63. And when I retire, I'll probably move to someplace that gets muddy, but I will NEVER sell my property, I'll rent it. But that's what CA is about, if you can get that big nut, it's downhill from here. :wink1:

Sent him a PM thanks.

The hammers are by Johnson Valley.
Thanks.

Yeah I should of been more specific. Probably more north and more east. But still close enough to the ocean... I don't know
Thought of eventually moving somewhere...California in on the lower of the list because of how huge population wise it is, and because its so expensive...

Thanks
Don't believe everything You hear Steve. The whole state is not over populated. In fact the north east has very few people and the land is not that high especially in Modoc county. Most of that area is made up of the Sierras and high desert. Temps there are pretty damn cold in the winter with lots of snow and mild in the summer. Now over on My side in the north west part we have plenty of rain in the winter with temps dipping down to the 30's but for the most part we hover in the 50's. Summers are mild with an average of about 85. Again We have a small population up here with lost of land with mostly timber and rivers. I'm only a 30 minute drive from the ocean.

Coreys' right, N. CA is beautiful, it all depends on what you are used to. I came from Phoenix to the beach, took five years for my joints to stop the pain.

The rubicon is close to placerville, but closer to south lake tahoe. I live in minden nevada, and i'm not to far at all from the rubicon. I maybe closer then from placerville.

Coreys' right, N. CA is beautiful, it all depends on what you are used to. I came from Phoenix to the beach, took five years for my joints to stop the pain.

why were your joints sore?



Yeah I saw some pictures on pirate last year with HUGE amounts of snow on the Rubicon-never knew they got that much snow down south.

Where is Johnson Valley?

Don't believe everything You hear Steve. The whole state is not over populated. In fact the north east has very few people and the land is not that high especially in Modoc county. Most of that area is made up of the Sierras and high desert. Temps there are pretty damn cold in the winter with lots of snow and mild in the summer. Now over on My side in the north west part we have plenty of rain in the winter with temps dipping down to the 30's but for the most part we hover in the 50's. Summers are mild with an average of about 85. Again We have a small population up here with lost of land with mostly timber and rivers. I'm only a 30 minute drive from the ocean.

I know everywhere wont be overpopulated. But California alone has as much, or more people than all of Canada. Cali is 155,959 sq mi. (403,934 sq km) and I Canada is 3,851,787 sq mi (9,976,128 sq km). Cali has approx. 35,893,799 people in 2004 and Canada only has approx. 32,805,041 people in July of this year. So with that little of land, and that many of people, I think it will be way different for me either way.
I don't know yet. Does anyone have a link to a reality site in California that I can see some examples of different cities prices of certain houses? I can't relate to how expenisve it is yet.
I will take your guys word that it is waaay expensive-will it ever go down though? The wheeling there looks great, ocean near by, lots of wommen, mountains, lakes, big cities, etc.

Still have time to decide. Thaks for the help.

Steve, reality sites are rare in CA, but there are plenty of realtors. Re/Max and pick a town. Sounds like you should be planning a recon. trip. :wink1:

LOL I won't be moving for at least2-3 years. I still need to find a job and save up some money first. Still in highschool, finish that first ;)

LOL I won't be moving for at least2-3 years. I still need to find a job and save up some money first. Still in highschool, finish that first ;)And college.

summer (may-Oct)
high 100-130 with july-aug being the hottest
low 75-90

winter (nov-april)
high 60-75
low 35-50

that's the imperial valley for you

ARQ.

I know everywhere wont be overpopulated. But California alone has as much, or more people than all of Canada. Cali is 155,959 sq mi. (403,934 sq km) and I Canada is 3,851,787 sq mi (9,976,128 sq km). Cali has approx. 35,893,799 people in 2004 and Canada only has approx. 32,805,041 people in July of this year. So with that little of land, and that many of people, I think it will be way different for me either way.
I don't know yet. Does anyone have a link to a reality site in California that I can see some examples of different cities prices of certain houses? I can't relate to how expenisve it is yet.
I will take your guys word that it is waaay expensive-will it ever go down though? The wheeling there looks great, ocean near by, lots of wommen, mountains, lakes, big cities, etc.

Still have time to decide. Thaks for the help.
Look at it this way Steve. Most of the population is in the Bay Area. LA, San Diego and Sacramento.
What I suggest You do is to just look up a town and most of the time you will get a link to realtors in that area. I know of areas in the northern part of the state where land and homes are cheap with low poulations. Im thinking of looking at some land around Alturas lot of ranch land over there and old homes that would make great fixer uppers.

So not everywhere in California is going to be as expensive compared to the Bay area? More inland would be less?

Thanks

So not everywhere in California is going to be as expensive compared to the Bay area? More inland would be less?

Thanks
First off I can not speak for Southern California cause I have never been there other than driving though. What I do know is the cheaper places in the northern part of the state are in the far northern parts. We have people move up here all the time and buy a house with 10-20 acres after selling their house in the Bay Area.

okay I get it.
Cali is tempting though-Rubicon, Fordyce, The Hammers, although I'm still young, so wheeling right now seems like the most important, excluding education.

I will do more research. I still don't know.

Thanks for the help Corey.

2 more off topic questions!!

How is the rust down there? Is it much of a problem?

Dragstrips...are there lots of good ones?

Rust? California? I don't think either of those words has a clue what the other one is :D

its raining right now in xxnorcal...:p:

its about like arizona temps here year round except about 20* cooler in the summer.

Oh yeah im 30 minutes from Johnson Valley, and 45 minutes from the hammer trails.

Rust? California? I don't think either of those words has a clue what the other one is :D

I thought i'd give 'er a stab. Didn't know!!

Jason,
What other trails are you close to?

ummm, we have big bear area, glamis dunes, dumont dunes, death valley, stoddard wells, barstow, joshua tree, truckhaven, anza borrego, a place with a ton of mud called azusa canyon, and to the north we have gorman and the sierra nevada's and the rubicon.

Wow so your close to everything...
That changes my decision a bit now...

its close to everything, but still in the middle of nowhere :haha:

what do you want to do? We have quite a few colleges down here...

What do I want to do? I'm thinking about a mechanical engineer right now.

What about gun laws, is it hard to get a gun in Cali?

What do I want to do? I'm thinking about a mechanical engineer right now.

What about gun laws, is it hard to get a gun in Cali?:haha: :haha: :haha:

this is probably one of the worst states in the US for gun owners...
its almost as bad as getting an old truck to pass smog :wink1:

chevyfumes is right, about the only places harder to get guns is maybe England & Australia. Find a copy of Shotgun News and look thru the adds for the Kool guns; "not for sale in CA". When it comes to politics, CA is very liberal; pink, limp wrist. Maybe the best thing is to live in AZ or NV and cross the border for the dirt; and in AZ & NV, you can shoot what you want (mostly). B :doah:

this is probably one of the worst states in the US for gun owners...
its almost as bad as getting an old truck to pass smog :wink1:
'73? You've graduated, right; no more smog check? :wink1:

its not too liberal here, quite a few bush stickers around election time, but then again its still cali and we have some dumb laws. Its not as bad as some people think, you can still get what you want you just have to know the proper channels to go through ;)

its not too liberal here, quite a few bush stickers around election time, but then again its still cali and we have some dumb laws. Its not as bad as some people think, you can still get what you want you just have to know the proper channels to go through ;)
Not like the days of "cash & dash"
By "cash & dash" I mean I bought my Garand on the spot, out the door, with ammo. Meanwhile, the dealer got rich and retired before all the reg. hit.

'73? You've graduated, right; no more smog check? :wink1:

yeah, but the DD is a 78

if i had to make the 73 pass... it has an "illegal" motor, half the smog equip that is supposed to be there isnt, the other half is disconnected, etc

Not like the days of "cash & dash"

No, oh well, its not as bad as it could be. But god damn is everything else expensive here, freakin diesel is still 2.89 a gallon while gas is 2.69. :mad:

this is probably one of the worst states in the US for gun owners...
its almost as bad as getting an old truck to pass smog :wink1:

Alright haha that explains it well, thanks

There are always pros and cons of each state.

Cali:

CON:
Tough SMOG
high population
tougher gun laws
tough vehicle laws/registration
EXPENSIVE to live in

PRO:
Lot's of wheeling, many places country "famous"
Mountains to hike/camp
lakes to fish
Ocean to fish/etc
warmer winters warmer summers compared to my area
snow in mountains if I ever want it???
beach ladies??? :eek1:


Anyways,

There are always pros and cons of each state.

Cali:

CON:
Tough SMOG
high population
tougher gun laws
tough vehicle laws/registration
EXPENSIVE to live in

PRO:
Lot's of wheeling, many places country "famous"
Mountains to hike/camp
lakes to fish
Ocean to fish/etc
warmer winters warmer summers compared to my area
snow in mountains if I ever want it???
beach ladies??? :eek1:


Anyways,

Yep, just take that list and compare it to Oregon or Washington... all the same pro's, half the cons...

I dont know why everyone busts a nut over smog, it really isnt that bad if you keep up on your maintance. Hell I know of quite a few people with some built engines in smog equipped vehicles that pass just fine. Vehicle laws arent too bad, we have no vehicle inspections here which are is a lot better that some states, and we dont have diesel smogs either.

Population is high depending on where you live, but down in LA it sucks too many people. and I geuss you could say that cost of living is higher, but most jobs pay more so its a wash in terms of that, and hopefully in a couple years that housing market will cool down so I can buy a house when im done with college.

I dont know why everyone busts a nut over smog, it really isnt that bad if you keep up on your maintance. Hell I know of quite a few people with some built engines in smog equipped vehicles that pass just fine. Vehicle laws arent too bad, we have no vehicle inspections here which are is a lot better that some states, and we dont have diesel smogs either.

Population is high depending on where you live, but down in LA it sucks too many people. and I geuss you could say that cost of living is higher, but most jobs pay more so its a wash in terms of that, and hopefully in a couple years that housing market will cool down so I can buy a house when im done with college.
You don't have smog check in Apple Valley? :confused:

You don't have smog check in Apple Valley? :confused:
He said "vehicle inspections", not smog checks. :wink1:

yeah we have smog checks, just got the dyno too in april.

He said "vehicle inspections", not smog checks. :wink1:
Who has vehicle inspect. anymore? :confused:

I guess some states still do

I don't have to do any SMOG stuff so I was just basing my opinion on what I have heard from this board and other internet sites.

Thanks

Also, is there a lot of desert racing? Not like pismo, but like trophy trucks? I know little about this so maybe I have my terms messed up.

yup, there are probably 15 races a year within a 45 minutes of me.

I don't have to do any SMOG stuff so I was just basing my opinion on what I have heard from this board and other internet sites.

Thanks

Also, is there a lot of desert racing? Not like pismo, but like trophy trucks? I know little about this so maybe I have my terms messed up.
Hey Pup, you need dirtsportsmag.com. Now, if you're thinking of ending-up in the bussiness part of OffRoad, then you HAVE TO BE in CA. CW?...Nashville. Movies?..Hollywood. Pol?....D.C. $$$?...NY, NY. Building the ultimate 150MPH,Krawl,Bog,Bling,Skyscraper Rig?....SoCal. :cool1: :cool:

For all those who live in California, do you regret living there and want to move away? Or do you love living there?

Thanks:)

For all those who live in California, do you regret living there and want to move away? Or do you love living there?

Thanks:)
Steve, from your posts its obvious you've got it together to be asking such far reaching Q's. Gang, this guy's young and not wasted like his peer group, lets do the Big Bro thing and send a PM, tell him about your CA Lifestyle.:wink1:

TTT thanks guys

I am a native here and wouldnt want to live anywhere else....
I love so cal.

Cool Thanks.

Come on guys, I know there are more than 2 people living there :haha:

Cool Thanks.

Come on guys, I know there are more than 2 people living there :haha:
Maybe they got stuck in traffic, got home late, no time to check CK5.:grin:

How bad is traffic in Calfornia? I realize in L.A. it will be bad, but is everywhere like that, or does it mellow out when you get farther away from large cities?

I watched this car chase thing yesterday, and a lot of them where in L.A. :eek1:

BadFish, where U at Dude, U should weigh-in on this 1. I went 2 Laughlin 2 weeks ago 2 start th Old Mojave Road Trail. Left Fri. 14:00, arrived at The Avi Hotel at 20:00; mapquest said 4.5 hrs. I'd never gone 2 Laughlin be4. Th tracts & Malls will B out 2 Barstow soon. Same as going 2 Mojave (city), tracts & Malls soon out 2 Palm(dale)(Lan)caster, n then from Palmcaster 2 Mojave. I've done a bunch of trips 2 Lompoc this year, thats gettin 2 b th same wa. LA 2 SD is filling up too. Once U can get East of th San Andreas Island, U pick-up speed 2 70~80. So U head-out at 09:00-11:00 or 13:00-14:00 2 get 2 th desert 4 dinner, or 22:00-03:00 if U don't want company, n nap after breakfast. U have 2 work with it. Its like U do not want 2 go 2 LAX on Wed. 11/23. Thur. 11/24 or Sun. 11/27 unless its an emergency, or someone screwed-up on reservations/last minute. Steve, U maybe headed 4 th record on th length of this thread.:D

Does anyone know where I can find a PHYSICAL map of California on the internet? I would like a coloured one with elevations, city locations, and rivers/lakes /ocean. Anyone know?

I'm going to try Google earth, anyone else know of anything?

Thanks

Google earth rocks! It's amazing how it works.

Anyone else have any links to maps? Physical/elevation maps people!!!

Thanks.

Also, does anyone know the future of Cali. wheeling? I am noticing a lot of threads on pirate4x4 forums about banning of snowwheeling, camping on trail, closing down trails, demonishing, etc. I know there are a lot of other places to offroad there too though that are unknown? or not harrassed.

This thread still lives? :doah: :doah:

johnson valley is usually left alone from the enviro nazi threats because lets face it there isnt **** out there because its snows there in the winter sometimes, and gets over 120* sometimes in the summer in the canyons.

johnson valley is usually left alone from the enviro nazi threats because lets face it there isnt **** out there because its snows there in the winter sometimes, and gets over 120* sometimes in the summer in the canyons.

So besides rock, dirt, and some vegetation there is nothing for them to complain about?

So besides rock, dirt, and some vegetation there is nothing for them to complain about?Steve, the freaks will fabricate a crisis just to feel essential. They resent that you have; balls, a large truck (probably not shiny), and your truck doesn't fart perfume, you know how to add, subtract, divide & multiply in your head, you can break several of their fingers with a handshake, you can make Women and Machines purr; I think I'm starting another thread. Thats the first I've heard of trying to pressure 'Roading in snow. I guess they don't stop to think more than one day into the future, like in the Spring when all the tracks have melted:haha:

Thanks guys. Cali sounds so good, but its expensive. :eek1:
We'll see.

Online realtor sites? Point me to the direction...

From a map, pick at town/city and wildcard search will give you all you need.

Okay thanks I will check that out with earth. In the winter months, how far do you have to travel to see snow (more than 6"-1') I.E. Mountains, higher elevation) and state where you live (city/town) thanks

I'm in the middle of socal and go to mammoth (snow--lots of snow) quite a bit. it's about 4-5 hours but not really a bad drive no real mountain driving unitl you're up there. It's awesome in the winter towns at 8000ft and the mountain goes up to a little over 11,000. you won't find much more snow thatn that.

To add to mtnman, ~2 hrs. from LA is Big Bear. Nothing like Mammoth, but if the snow fall is weak, they manufacture. They have to have a ski season.:D

What about natural disasters?
Hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, tornadoes, what else is down in California?
And how often do each natural thing happen? What areas?

Are there a lot of junkyards everywhere?

What about natural disasters?
Hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, tornadoes, what else is down in California?
And how often do each natural thing happen? What areas?

Are there a lot of junkyards everywhere?:shame: :shame: Steve, you can get this stuff anywhere.

There has never been an earthquake, tornadoe, or hurricane in my area since '96 (as long as I lived here) Just flooding in spring where peoples foundations aren't sealed well enough.
Help a brother out!!

Just when you thought you wouldn't see this thread again! :haha:

I'm narrowing it down and I think 'Cali is off the list. Although it sounds like heaven to live and wheel in (in some respects) but the $$$ is too much I'm thinking. Even with scholarships and everything my money isn't worth enough.
It's still an option though I guess. I won't really know until I move I guess.