Second gen chevy to cummins power, how-to post - Page 5

DEMON44 · 01-12-2006, 05:17 AM

That picture I posted is my NVG5600 with a 205 bolted to it.

It is an early '90s dodge 205 that come off the getrag IIRC. it is a 29 spline male on both sides with a coupler. and round 6 bolt mount pattern. That is as far as I know the only 205 that will bolt up to the 5600 to give a proper passenger side drop neccissary for our GM's.

this is a little side by side of a 4500 top and 5600 bottom

1967k10 · 01-16-2006, 05:33 PM

Will a spacer from a Cummins/th400 work on an early GM nv4500?

kennyw · 01-16-2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1967k10

Will a spacer from a Cummins/th400 work on an early GM nv4500?

It may let you put a Chevy bellhousing on... but I don't know if it will work with the clutch.

stoneagemaxx · 01-16-2006, 08:26 PM

how about a dodge 203 to the nv5600?, you can use the dodge 203, and the gm 205 w/ ord's doubler

kennyw · 01-16-2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoneagemaxx

how about a dodge 203 to the nv5600?, you can use the dodge 203, and the gm 205 w/ ord's doubler

Does a Dodge NP203 have the round 6 hole pattern? I'm not sure about that... think it was a figure 8 pattern on the 727/NP203 I rebuilt a few years ago. But you can redrill and tap the face of the NP203 for the round bolt pattern.

camsk5 · 01-20-2006, 06:35 AM

Some updates

MOTOR MOUNT THOUGHTS

I have procured a 12v motor which Im building

Im running another thread about building the cummins... but I wont put that here because it clogs the post
Since I started this thread a number of gen 1/2/3 cummins conversion postings have been going up around the forums... TDR now has several excellent threads
(SEE TIMO's http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...ad.php?t=66674
and P Kirby's http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...d.php?t=136977for gen 2)... and a number of pictures (P Kirby has taken excellent pictures of his motor mounts)

I have 1989 gen 1 dodge mounts already on my motor and Im going try to adapt those to my chevy mounts using P Kirbys (TDR) ideas,, it keeps things really stock looking and uses stock parts... and the chevy's frame was designed to take loads in the existing crossmember area

There are several more companies out there doing conversions and making mounts... they make for some good ideas for fabbing your own
If you are even consdering the conversion your fabbing skills should be excellent...if they arent try a welding class..Lincoln is even offering a nascar fab school now...
Im putting the links to two companies that are making motor mounts...Im not suggesting you purchase them but again they are some examples of stuff out there....
http://www.autoworldmt.com/Page_9.html
http://www.screaminseeman.com/home.php

Radiators

I recommend looking at P Kirbys M1008 cummins post at TDR... hes used a duramax radiator and the intercooler and it looks like it is a doable conversion..I have a question into him about it so there will be an update here

Tranny Transfercase

The more I look at it (since Im going auto) I think the only way is to go all dodge... so Ill be in the market for a 205 gen 1 auto case... and Ill figure out which auto od will work best for the conversion

Right now Im dealing with gathering parts, trying to get some more auto tranny/transfer case answers, and rebuilding the CTD,, Im still getting sticker shock over cummins parts prices... but thats why they run so well for so long

cam

1967k10 · 01-20-2006, 06:49 AM

Do you have a phone # for Auto World.Either I'm overlooking it or it's not on there.Those brackets would cut down some of the install time.

camsk5 · 01-22-2006, 06:29 PM

contact crewcab59 on here... hes making engine brakects and crossmembers for the conversion...

support a brother ck5er

cam

CrewCab59 · 01-27-2006, 05:39 PM

Thanks

camsk5

camsk5 · 02-02-2006, 10:10 AM

I have a followup question....

I have a 727 tranny that came with my cummins... mated to it.. it has the aluminum engine to tranny adapter... but its from a 2 wd truck....

1) I want to use a later dodge EOD tranny.. maybe a 47h... will the original 2wd 727 adapter work ?

2) Does anyone know for certain which gen 1 205 I need to get to fit the auto... (they made two spline versions)... are the main shafts swappable if I find the "wrong" spline version?

3) Im in the market for the factory adapter... dodge auto to dodge 205... anyone have a line on one before I post elsewhere

Im electing to use a 3 inch lift... and perhaps 1 inch bodylift... to give me every last inch

Lastly..I have an a/c truck... it looked to me as if it will clear the turbo... but be tight.. am I correct?

thanks "turbomen"

cam

01-12-2006, 05:17 AM	Posted in reply to CrewCab59's post starting "The newer Chevy 205's have 32 spline..." #41
DEMON44 Low-Tech Redneck Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Okotoks, Alberta Posts: 3,308 i Trader: (3 )	That picture I posted is my NVG5600 with a 205 bolted to it. It is an early '90s dodge 205 that come off the getrag IIRC. it is a 29 spline male on both sides with a coupler. and round 6 bolt mount pattern. That is as far as I know the only 205 that will bolt up to the 5600 to give a proper passenger side drop neccissary for our GM's. this is a little side by side of a 4500 top and 5600 bottom __________________ Luke CK5 Teck Junkie --------------------------------------------------- '97 Chevy V3500 CC DRW 6BT F450 chassis '97 Freightliner COE C12 Caterpillar 13spd EatonFuller 40k rears 275" wb '90 VW Jetta 1.9L TD 5spd coupe wolfsburg - Daily driver '73 Chevy RS/Z-28 - Survivor

01-16-2006, 05:33 PM	Posted in reply to DEMON44's post starting "That picture I posted is my NVG5600..." #42
1967k10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nebraska looking for D60's Posts: 1,703 i Trader: (15 )	Will a spacer from a Cummins/th400 work on an early GM nv4500? __________________ onetonparts 2001 Duramax/6spd,4x4,Tuned with EFI Live ,5" exhaust,CIA,SBC Clutch,PPE 160GPH pump,traction bars,and needing a Furd D60 up front,590hp/995tq 2003 Duramax/6spd,4x4,dually,EFI,SBC Clutch,Pac-Brake,ect 1967 K10 in many pieces 86 M1008 on 33"s 1967 K20 Duramax power in the works

01-20-2006, 06:49 AM	Posted in reply to camsk5's post starting "Some updates MOTOR MOUNT..." #47
1967k10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nebraska looking for D60's Posts: 1,703 i Trader: (15 )	Do you have a phone # for Auto World.Either I'm overlooking it or it's not on there.Those brackets would cut down some of the install time. __________________ onetonparts 2001 Duramax/6spd,4x4,Tuned with EFI Live ,5" exhaust,CIA,SBC Clutch,PPE 160GPH pump,traction bars,and needing a Furd D60 up front,590hp/995tq 2003 Duramax/6spd,4x4,dually,EFI,SBC Clutch,Pac-Brake,ect 1967 K10 in many pieces 86 M1008 on 33"s 1967 K20 Duramax power in the works

02-02-2006, 10:10 AM	Posted in reply to DEMON44's post starting "That picture I posted is my NVG5600..." #50
camsk5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 2,578 i Trader: (4 )	more cummins updates I have a followup question.... I have a 727 tranny that came with my cummins... mated to it.. it has the aluminum engine to tranny adapter... but its from a 2 wd truck.... 1) I want to use a later dodge EOD tranny.. maybe a 47h... will the original 2wd 727 adapter work ? 2) Does anyone know for certain which gen 1 205 I need to get to fit the auto... (they made two spline versions)... are the main shafts swappable if I find the "wrong" spline version? 3) Im in the market for the factory adapter... dodge auto to dodge 205... anyone have a line on one before I post elsewhere Im electing to use a 3 inch lift... and perhaps 1 inch bodylift... to give me every last inch Lastly..I have an a/c truck... it looked to me as if it will clear the turbo... but be tight.. am I correct? thanks "turbomen" cam

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01-16-2006, 08:26 PM	Posted in reply to kennyw's post starting "It may let you put a Chevy bellhousing..." #44
stoneagemaxx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: S. Lyon, Mi Posts: 74 i Trader: (0 )	how about a dodge 203 to the nv5600?, you can use the dodge 203, and the gm 205 w/ ord's doubler

01-20-2006, 06:35 AM	Posted in reply to camsk5's post "Second gen chevy to cummins power,..." #46
camsk5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 2,578 i Trader: (4 )	Some updates MOTOR MOUNT THOUGHTS I have procured a 12v motor which Im building Im running another thread about building the cummins... but I wont put that here because it clogs the post Since I started this thread a number of gen 1/2/3 cummins conversion postings have been going up around the forums... TDR now has several excellent threads (SEE TIMO's http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...ad.php?t=66674 and P Kirby's http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...d.php?t=136977for gen 2)... and a number of pictures (P Kirby has taken excellent pictures of his motor mounts) I have 1989 gen 1 dodge mounts already on my motor and Im going try to adapt those to my chevy mounts using P Kirbys (TDR) ideas,, it keeps things really stock looking and uses stock parts... and the chevy's frame was designed to take loads in the existing crossmember area There are several more companies out there doing conversions and making mounts... they make for some good ideas for fabbing your own If you are even consdering the conversion your fabbing skills should be excellent...if they arent try a welding class..Lincoln is even offering a nascar fab school now... Im putting the links to two companies that are making motor mounts...Im not suggesting you purchase them but again they are some examples of stuff out there.... http://www.autoworldmt.com/Page_9.html http://www.screaminseeman.com/home.php Radiators I recommend looking at P Kirbys M1008 cummins post at TDR... hes used a duramax radiator and the intercooler and it looks like it is a doable conversion..I have a question into him about it so there will be an update here Tranny Transfercase The more I look at it (since Im going auto) I think the only way is to go all dodge... so Ill be in the market for a 205 gen 1 auto case... and Ill figure out which auto od will work best for the conversion Right now Im dealing with gathering parts, trying to get some more auto tranny/transfer case answers, and rebuilding the CTD,, Im still getting sticker shock over cummins parts prices... but thats why they run so well for so long cam

01-22-2006, 06:29 PM	Posted in reply to 1967k10's post starting "Do you have a phone # for Auto..." #48
camsk5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 2,578 i Trader: (4 )	contact crewcab59 on here... hes making engine brakects and crossmembers for the conversion... support a brother ck5er cam

01-27-2006, 05:39 PM	Posted in reply to camsk5's post starting "contact crewcab59 on here... hes making..." #49
CrewCab59 www.tndiesel.com Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Knoxville ,TN Posts: 442 i Trader: (2 )	Thanks camsk5

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