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Old 03-09-2005, 06:01 PM   #1
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Spicer u-joints vs Precision/ other heavy duty joints?

Does anyone know the difference between Spicer brand HD (such as 5-760-x) and a non-name brand style like Precision? I priced out new joints for my chromoly axles and they quoted me around 60.00 ea for the Spicer 760x ones and he showed me a Precision joint rated Extreme HD which he says are hardened, have a larger cross, and come either greasable or non-greasable (in the end of the cap rather than a drilled cross) and cost around 35.00 each.
Now we all know Im not a name brand type guy (I bought Yukon chromoly axles instead of Warns- 440.00 vs 1200.00) so the name brands dont impress me other than piss me off because they charge so much more for the same thing, but I always make sure to ask what the diff is!
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I bought my spicer 733X joints for my D60 from Randy's Ring & Pinion and paid 38.00 each back in August of 2002.
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I get Spicer 760x's at Napa for $26 each. Tim can probably get them to you for a good price too if nobody else can. $60 each is rediculous.

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$60.00 a piece wow thats wrong man go somewere else. percison is good also. but if you have special shafts like you say get the best in my opinon.
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If you need be I can pick up a couple from Napa and ship them to you. I don't know how much shipping costs to Canada but it has to be cheaper then paying $60 each for ujoints.

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also autozone sels bruteforce that are non cross drilled and sinthetic filled . but as far as beef to spicer i cant tell you. but i run them my self and no problems.
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Thanks for the replies... you have to remember where Im located. North Eastern Alberta Canada. You just cant compare prices of stuff, but I have to buy whats available here.
Harley, thanks for the offer! I will keep it in mind for later, my axles should be in town tomorrow am, and Id love the truck fixed before the weekend! The mud is starting to show thru!
I am dying to go wheeling here hehe.
Anyways, thx again. If noone can point out any significant diffs before tomorrow I will buy the precision ones and let ya know how it turns out!
One more quick ??, which is preferable? Greasable or non-greasable? I run lotsa mud, so I like the greasables, but I have had non-greasables in my rear driveshaft for quite a while and they seem to last way longer than the others despite greasing them after every run.
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if mud and you ALWAYS GREASE AFTER PLAY then greaseable, but the cross is weeker like that. and tests have shown that non greeseable will last longer and stronger from non drilled cross..


p.s. pull cap and take somthing and check the cross. some are drilled all the way threw just not the zerk hole drilled.
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I am currently running the Spicer 760's in my 10 bolt front. They seem to be doing a damn good job holding up to what I throw at them. You know what I do to them, you have seen it in person. I was beating the piss out of them this weekend on Raw Deal (the trail you where on 2yrs ago with us). It is not a super hard trail but it was wet and it was kinda nasty. I was giving my truck hell on the waterfall that Rob snapped the 12 bolt shaft on with the wheels turned all the way one way then the other. I was spinning all 4 looking for any possible traction and the Spicer's held up well. No pops.

I am a big fan of the Spicer 760's.

If you can't get ahold of the Spicers now I would say run the greaseable (since it is threw the cap) ujoint you mentioned. I would HIGHLY advise that you get full circle snaprings though for the joints. It would be a shame to have a 3/4 ring pop out and ruin your Chromo axles. From what I have heard alot of people is if you break the ujoint you will most likely ruin your Chromo's at the same time. That is why everyone runs CTM's so that the joint won't break.

What front locker do you run? If you run an ARB I would look into running some Warn Premium hubs with there hub fuses so you have less chance of breaking expensive things like R&P's with the Chromo's and 38's.

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Well, I bought the lockrite down there in Phoenix for it. Ive had a Trutrac in it for a yr now and broke one axle.

I was advised to not run the CTMs just because they were so strong that they would break other stuff instead of the joint. It doesnt make much sense to me for the reason that if the joint does pop, it takes out the axle with it... therefore why would I want to run a substandard joint? It made no sense...
I really dont know what to do now. It makes sense to run the strongest joint i can with the strongest axles I can, then protect them with something that can break, be replaced and not hurt anything else when it does. Like a hub fuse. I was also told that those fuses will break tho at the slightest sneeze so I dont want to be swapping them at every obstacle. I also understood that chromolys were strong enough that if a u-joine (like the Precision ones) could break and not hurt the axle... as long as the driver was smart and didnt keep spinning things. Beats me.
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