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Old 12-28-2005, 11:23 PM   #1
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Hydro assist on the cheap...Under $100

Just ordered the stuff for my assist..

Ram- 1.5x8x1
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic

Hose- Ordered 3, one for a spare. 48"
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic

Fittings-

4 of these- 2 for the box, 2 for the ram
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...tem=9-1501-4-4

2 of these- adapter to attach the hose to the ram
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...tem=9-6405-4-4

Total cost $87.93.

This is the 1.5x8x.75" ram-
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic

I've been researchng this assist thing quite a bit the last few days, and have read about the problems with the 1.5" bore rams. However all the problems I've read about are concerning the 1.5 bore ram with a .75" diameter rod. I'm hoping the larger 1" diameter rod helps to stop the possible bending and resulting leaks. There is a larger difference in the push/pull specs between the two rams- The 1" ram- Push/Pull 5290/2940 lbs. The .75 ram- Push/Pull 3,350/2,650 lbs. The steering force with .75 ram would be closer to equal both left and right...But the 1" ram has a higher rating all the way around. It'll be quite a bit stronger 1 way than the other vs the .75 ram, but still stronger than the .75 ram in both directions.

As far as speed, the one 1" I ordred might be slower than the .75" ram, but should still be faster than the 2" rams, most of which have 1.125" rods.

I learned alot from this thread on Pirate- Including the link to the SurplusCenter stuff.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...t=hydro+assist

Obviously, I'm going to port and tap my own box, and fab the mounts myself. Probably try the radiator hose method for more fluid capacity. If I'm not happy with how it works with a new, stock style pump, then I''ll probably start experimenting a bit with some of the flow/pressure mods on the WTO website. I have a new spare pump in addition to the almost new one on my truck, so I have some room to play.

Whatever happens, its gotta be better than trying to turn 42's on a Detriot locked 60 wth the stock setup.
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Hey Joe where did you get the info for drilling your box? I've got a few pictures and some very limited info, but I gotta do this on mine (or I'll never be able to turn these damn wheels) and I need a little info. pm it to me if you would be so kind(otherwise I'll loose track of this)

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I'm gonna do mine just like those pictures. Seems simple enough.
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Right on man! thanks!
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so are those the same parts off the pirate thread? let us know how it works out
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Yes,let us know...I've been thinking of this also.
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Dam, I paid $160 for a PSC 1.75" ram alone!

Are there any specific measurements that need to be done on the steering box for the drilling and tapping, or any write up's? I have had one steering box apart and it was horrible. I never did get it back together right.
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I used this write up as a guide when I tapped my box. It's extremely detailed with plenty of great pic's!!

I know it's a dodge site but they use the same saginaw box we do...

http://ramchargercentral.com/index.p...owtoshow;id=56

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Hey Joe where did you get the info for drilling your box? I've got a few pictures and some very limited info, but I gotta do this on mine (or I'll never be able to turn these damn wheels) and I need a little info. pm it to me if you would be so kind(otherwise I'll loose track of this)

thanx, matt
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