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Old 01-17-2004, 04:50 PM   #1
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ignition mod - toggle switch

I need help. Basically my ignition system is crap. The cylinder lock, switch, actuator rod all are bad.

I have tried replacing them with a toggle switch but did not have any luck today. The toggle switch may not work. It is an on-off-on switch. It doens't have a momentary on so I might need to replace it.

But first I am having problems with how I should go about hooking up the various wires from the old ignition switch. Here is what I have
- 2 red wires from fusabel battery link
- 2 orange wires from choke fuse?
- 1 brown from radio
- 1 yellow from neutral safety switch
- 1 pink from ingnition module
- 1 tan w/white stripe that is thinner diameter than rest of wires not sure from where it came?

Any ideas how the wires should be rigged up.

Thanks for all the help



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Old 01-17-2004, 09:18 PM
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Re: ignition mod - toggle switch

First, I am impressed. First post AND a member!! WELCOME!!
wish i could help!! Might be easier to fix column than to try and rewire it. Fill out your Bio, you might find someone near you that can help or may have a column. I have an extra with a broken tilt I have been using for parts. All the ignition stuff is still on it. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
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Re: ignition mod - toggle switch

You'll need at least a couple of switches. One to turn on power to the truck and another to fire up the starter. Your on-off-on switch turns OFF the circuit on one side while turning ON the circuit on the other. So when the starter is on, the igintion is off, and vice versa. It won't start like that. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

A new lock cylinder is less than $20. I don't think an ignition switch costs too much either. I would just fix what is already there rather than try to figure out how to circumvent the factory switch. The factory switch has a few different circuits in it. Some parts of the truck get power in the ACC position, while others don't. In the START position nearly everything else in the truck gets switched off while the starter is cranking, then powered back up once you release the key into the RUN position.
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Old 01-18-2004, 02:21 PM   #4
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Re: ignition mod - toggle switch

I had planned to keep it original but the actuator arm gave me a lot of problems.

I scapped the toggle switch idea. I picked up a universal ignition switch/lock cylinder. The switch has three terminals - batt -ACC -IGN.

I need help with which wires exactley are connected to which terminals.
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Ignition switch is $10, I had to replace mine this year.
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Old 01-18-2004, 03:51 PM   #6
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Re: ignition mod - toggle switch

you can fix it all with a column out of parts truck, not hard to do, ill have a good column i can sell cheap soon when the shortfleet get here, i would not mess with wires and hack them all up, you will wish you didnt


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I do have a parts truck next to the garage with a good column. How hard of a project is it to remove the column?
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Re: ignition mod - toggle switch

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I do have a parts truck next to the garage with a good column. How hard of a project is it to remove the column?

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15 minutes if you've done it before, maybe an hour if you haven't.
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Old 01-18-2004, 06:19 PM   #9
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Re: ignition mod - toggle switch

Took me a total of 50mins takin column out of parts truck and outta my truck and puttin in parts truck column, and swap steering wheels.
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